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Friday, November 28, 2008

Tailwind

I took some pictures on the way south, although as usual the instrument shots didn't work out well. I'll leave it as an exercise for you to calculate how much tailwind I had.

It's the sort of thing you can do in flight to keep your mind awake.

14 comments:

  1. 64 knots? Is the blue bug in your airspeed indicator your approach speed?

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  2. The blue line is not a bug, but rather a line painted on the airspeed indicator showing the single engine best rate of climb speed. I fly an approach at 110 to 120 kts.

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  3. 23ish... but thats just using a rule of thumb from low altitude flying... for every 1000 feet above sea level your TAS is about 5 knots faster than IAS.

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  4. Assuming you're at 9,000 ft indicated with a standard atmosphere, and that CAS is the same as IAS:

    IAS: 149 kt
    TAS: 171 kt
    GS: 223 kt

    So let's say a 52 kt tailwind component (or "about 50 kt", given the approximations in my calculations).

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  5. 58kts
    tried reading TAS correction on ASI assuming you turned the correct temperature at your altitude.

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  6. Thought the blue line was the minimum safe single engine speed, below which you'd roll in the direction of the dead engine?

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  7. I think the red line at the bottom of the green arc is Vmc.

    Tailwinds are never as good as the headwinds are bad.

    As nerdy mathematical aside, I used to think you'd make up time going downwind on a roundtrip you lost going upwind. Turns out not to be the case, especially if your airspeed is close to windspeed, too often the case for me.

    If V = airspeed, W = windspeed component on course, Td = Time downwind, Tu = Time upwind, and k = V/W, the fraction wind is of airspeed...

    Td/Tu = (1-1/k) / (1+1/k)

    k=1 (V=W) = 0 you never get upwind
    k=2 Td/Tu = 0.333
    k=3, Td/Tu = 0.5, about the case here.

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  8. More to the point about elapsed round-trip time above, still assuming k=W/V and a round-trip with wind W and airspeed V...

    total time = 2D/V * 1 / (1+1/k)*(1-1/k)

    so again if k=1 you never get there,
    k=2 1.33 times calm-wind time
    k=3 1.25
    k=4 1.07

    ... I need to get out more.

    I know, no one cares, but I thought it was interesting.

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  9. Ha ha ha, keep 'em coming, even you Sarah.

    I haven't written the follow up post to this yet and it will probably be a week before I have the time, but I'll come back to it.

    Yes, red is Vmc, blue is Vyse, and no, the ASI calculator is not set.

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  10. Sarah, of course someone cares.
    Your point has even been proved experimentally for cyclists!

    Darkside

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  11. Nice task. Really enjoy reading your blog!!!

    Using a quick, probably not to exact "in-head" formula I came up with 50kts, assuming ISA conditions.

    110-120kts seems fast, are those your final approach speeds?

    Keep on blogging,

    FE

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  12. Reading on a dark & snowy day, about a/c instruments. Maybe you all know this, but I just found out.

    The Laser Ring 'Gyro' ( w/no moving parts) works on the same principle as the upwind/downwind round-trip elapsed time blather I went on about. By measuring elapsed time "stretch" in laser beams bouncing opposite directions in a ring - or triangle, usually, you can detect rotation about that ring axis. With two .. voila

    Cool.

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  13. Ok, I think my earlier ROT must have been based on a specific a/s... Anyway, crossing the North Atlantic earlier this week I saw 150 kt tailwind... made for a bumpy ride but at least it was a quick crossing!

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