tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post8626142380578838315..comments2024-03-13T09:47:40.487+00:00Comments on Cockpit Conversation: Survey Says ...Aviatrixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-6947577100176894332009-08-19T05:15:19.023+00:002009-08-19T05:15:19.023+00:00I prefer "Loose nut behind the yoke/stick&quo...I prefer "Loose nut behind the yoke/stick".Wildcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-62502988652909792832009-08-17T22:37:35.137+00:002009-08-17T22:37:35.137+00:00I find St. Catharines to be pushing a little too m...I find St. Catharines to be pushing a little too much on the "control tower" type attitude as well.<br /><br />I was leaving out of there late one night, and as per standard called them prior to taxi-ing out with my intentions. They didn't answer, so over the next couple minutes I called them a couple more times with still no answer.<br /><br />I shrugged my shoulders, figuring they were gone to the washroom or something and taxied out. In my backtrack I called them one more time, and this time they answered. Long story short they yelled at me over the radio for a "runway incursion" due to not contacting them before taxi-ing out, and they filed a CADOR on me.<br /><br />Transport Canada called a few weeks later, and after I explained my actions they told me I didn't do anything wrong and dismissed it. End of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-72617787596425913122009-08-17T15:50:26.384+00:002009-08-17T15:50:26.384+00:00Ahh these are too easy. How about these ones?
...Ahh these are too easy. How about these ones? <br /><br />The problem lies somewhere between the controls and the chair. <br /><br />PICNIC Error - Problem in chair, not in computer.<br /><br />ID10T Error - "I, dee, ten tee Error" <br /><br />Working help desk, you pick up on these a lot!viennatechhttp://viennatech.ca/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-76883885051382098592009-08-17T12:56:10.579+00:002009-08-17T12:56:10.579+00:00In my corner of the tech world, there was an offic...In my corner of the tech world, there was an official category for things that were returned by a system troubleshooter but tested out fine. They got labeled "NTF" for "no trouble found". More than half the returned products fell into this category.<br /><br />Eventually the people flagging them as faulty got together and complained loudly enough about the implied slur on their abilities, and the category was changed to "TNF" for "trouble not found".Anoynmoushttp://anoynmous.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-49821681543187686652009-08-16T05:08:26.938+00:002009-08-16T05:08:26.938+00:00RFM? ROFL! That reminds me of the time I asked an ...RFM? ROFL! That reminds me of the time I asked an avionics guy how something worked and he told me it was PFM.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-89256375327262767212009-08-16T03:06:13.963+00:002009-08-16T03:06:13.963+00:00RMF: "Repaired by Mystical Forces"RMF: "Repaired by Mystical Forces"dpiercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03397601206317363858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-9854346339150949542009-08-15T23:44:37.293+00:002009-08-15T23:44:37.293+00:00In a previous life as an electronic tech working w...In a previous life as an electronic tech working with fairly complicated equipment our favorite was: OHST Mal. <br /><br />Which stood for "Operator Head-space or Timing Malfunction."jinkstohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645519830822645928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-32472761077086641712009-08-15T20:07:37.872+00:002009-08-15T20:07:37.872+00:00@Angus
Crap, sorry. I even Googled it to make sur...@Angus<br /><br />Crap, sorry. I even Googled it to make sure I got it right, then I guess I didn't actually correct it.<br /><br />Coincidently that accident is what got me interested in aviation safety. That airport was my home town for a while, sort of.nec Timidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017143602023726206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-36624040629592903252009-08-15T19:55:53.895+00:002009-08-15T19:55:53.895+00:00In my corner of the aviation world the abbreviatio...In my corner of the aviation world the abbreviation for "we have no idea what is wrong but it seems to work now" is CND... "could not duplicate."Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14381269942646209034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-65114355068623823692009-08-15T17:30:21.404+00:002009-08-15T17:30:21.404+00:00...oh, and nec Timide it's spelled St Catharin......oh, and nec Timide it's spelled St Catharines (my hometown, sorta).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07183219862679520786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-80576113030192562852009-08-15T17:10:31.961+00:002009-08-15T17:10:31.961+00:00I had a trip into Cranbrook yesterday, so I was ex...I had a trip into Cranbrook yesterday, so I was explaining this US/Canada difference in FSS function to my US copilot. Ironically Cranbrook is where it all started, with <a href="http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19780211-0" rel="nofollow">this accident</a><br /><br />One result was the system of MF airspace. Canadian FSS operating in a MF (mandatory frequency) area do have additional responsibilities. In my opinion the Canadian system is a good one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07183219862679520786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1289722035653529792009-08-15T13:27:16.493+00:002009-08-15T13:27:16.493+00:00@A Squared
It can be a bit disconcerting, and tho...@A Squared<br /><br />It can be a bit disconcerting, and though sometimes the phraseology takes on the syntax of an ATC instruction, I've never heard one issue a clearance except when relayed from ATC. This usually only happens when they work in buildings constructed and equipped to be towers so they have the same information available to them that a controller would. The operating style has evolved to provide pilots with that data in a form similar to what they are used to. <br /><br />If you don't like the recommendations, replying with standard phraseology like "unable", "unfamiliar" and/or "XYZ intends <i>something else</i>".<br /><br />I had a discussion with St. Catherines FSS one night. When I checked in and asked for advisory he reported no traffic and asked me to "report left base" I replied that I intended to perform a standard overhead arrival. He replied that I was 16nm out and had lots of room to descend, which I trumped with "I am unfamiliar". That was the end of the discussion.nec Timidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017143602023726206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-64811907122394349722009-08-15T10:44:43.727+00:002009-08-15T10:44:43.727+00:00You'd get a fine for inappropriate radio langu...<i> You'd get a fine for inappropriate radio language. </i>. I meant that in the figurative sense <br /><br /><i> They do know they aren't a tower </i> I'm not so sure all are clear on the concept. I recall FSS at Fort Nelson, years ago acting very much like they were in fact ground control, and this at a time when there was one other airplane taxiing, and many acres of pavement with upon which we could avoid hitting each other.A Squarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-47513852660677715452009-08-15T08:55:55.284+00:002009-08-15T08:55:55.284+00:00What would happen? You'd get a fine for inapp...What would happen? You'd get a fine for inappropriate radio language. If they said "active runway is 16, report downwind" and I said "ABC is landing straight in 34" they'd say "Roger, ABC, traffic is a King Air on short final 16, a C172 turning base 16 and a B737 on 15 mile final 16."<br /><br />They do know they aren't a tower, but they have a good handle on where the traffic, airport construction, winds and other factors are. They are usually extremely professional and I usually take their recommendations because it makes life better for me and everyone else trying to use the congested airport.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-78474716881864438602009-08-15T07:57:05.842+00:002009-08-15T07:57:05.842+00:00It's not actually a control tower, but an FSS,...<i> It's not actually a control tower, but an FSS, but it's one of the assertive ones that coordinates traffic rather than just telling you where other aircraft are and asking "what are your intentions?" </i><br /><br />What is up with that anyway? In the US, you will never, ever have a FSS specialist instruct you when or where to operate your aircraft. They will advise you of known traffic, and that is it. And mind you, I operate in the one part of the US where Flight Service Stations are still located at airports with windows looking out over said airport. <br /><br />So what would happen if you told a FSS specialist who had been playing controller to GFY? <br /><br />I thing in the US they'd take the hint, otherwise it could wind up in an unpleasant (for them) conversation with their supervisor, because they are not supposed to be playing controller.A Squarednoreply@blogger.com