tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post5766196985213876097..comments2024-03-13T09:47:40.487+00:00Comments on Cockpit Conversation: The Season of IceAviatrixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-73554784126511830162008-06-14T11:40:00.000+00:002008-06-14T11:40:00.000+00:00Vortex kit, vortex boundary layer system, them vor...Vortex kit, vortex boundary layer system, them vortex thingies ... it all does the same job.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-85271387740014802322008-06-14T06:04:00.000+00:002008-06-14T06:04:00.000+00:00Vortex kit? I thought the standard terminology wa...Vortex kit? I thought the standard terminology was <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_generator" REL="nofollow">vortex generators</A>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-21637479906850216932008-06-13T12:20:00.000+00:002008-06-13T12:20:00.000+00:00Thank You! As a groundling I appreciate learning m...Thank You! As a groundling I appreciate learning more about what's "up there" from a pragmatic denizen's view.<BR/>Vortex kit..dang. Wonder if I can get one for my Honda Accord.<BR/><BR/>PS: nice to hear about NASA's non-human cannonball work for a change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-6810308373366825072008-06-12T23:25:00.000+00:002008-06-12T23:25:00.000+00:00But that research shows that although ice may rema...<I>But that research shows that although ice may remain between cycles, the ice will ultimately clear as well as it would have, had you waited for a large build up, and by activating the boots as soon as you have ice, you reduce the maximum amount of ice you are ever carrying.</I><BR/><BR/>Boy, the pilots of the ATR in Roselawn would have been interested to know that. <BR/><BR/>From the NTSB:<BR/>"The loss of control was attributed to a sudden and unexpected aileron hinge moment reversal that occurred after a ridge of ice accreted beyond the deice boots."<BR/><BR/>I can't find a reference now, but why do I remember that they were over-cycling the boots? The final report blamed the boot design, but I know I saw something around the time of the accident that said that if they had used them as the ops manual said, they wouldn't have gotten the runback ice to begin with.Tina Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14319410094727258126noreply@blogger.com