tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post112947940435541783..comments2024-03-13T09:47:40.487+00:00Comments on Cockpit Conversation: Kids These DaysAviatrixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129958104523573042005-10-22T05:15:00.000+00:002005-10-22T05:15:00.000+00:00There are very few flying jobs with set hours. May...<I>There are very few flying jobs with set hours. Maybe flying scenic tours in Las Vegas.</I><BR/><BR/>That was one thing that was cool 'bout Amflight. Set hours, M-F. And flights other than your scheduled ones got you 150% pay, revenue or not.Sam Weigelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06332414897030323612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129824557127163482005-10-20T16:09:00.000+00:002005-10-20T16:09:00.000+00:00If you fly corporate you have a salary. You don't ...If you fly corporate you have a salary. You don't fly that many hours a year, but that airplane has to be where it's needed, when it's needed, or it's your job. If you fly corporate your life <I>definitely</I> revolves around your job. There are no set hours: you must be ready for takeoff typically two hours after you receive the pager call.<BR/><BR/>There's a corporate operation I'm thinking of, whose CEO is very well known in my province, any highly regarded, but the flight department and maintenance are miserable backbiting sods, because if anything goes wrong they have to have someone to blame. So instead of working together as a team, maintenance and pilots are constantly setting each other up to blame for the inevitable problems.<BR/><BR/>It's a very high stress job.<BR/><BR/>There are very few flying jobs with set hours. Maybe flying scenic tours in Las Vegas. Scenic tours other places would be "every daylight hour with suitable weather until you duty out" but in a place like Las Vegas the weather is reliable enough that pilots cold be scheduled certainly, and there are no urgent emergency scenics. They probably still have unpaid repositioning or maintenance test flights, though.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129769512829137062005-10-20T00:51:00.000+00:002005-10-20T00:51:00.000+00:00I have to agree with Clumpinglitter - sometimes yo...I have to agree with Clumpinglitter - sometimes you just have to say no. I've worked for companies in the past that expected employees lives to revolve around the company. I don't work at places like that anyomre.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I work to live, I don't live to work.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps things are different in commercial aviation, but one needs to draw the line sometimes, or risk becoming a doormat for management who suddenly tries to dump every problem on their employees, frequently against their will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129653767744269752005-10-18T16:42:00.000+00:002005-10-18T16:42:00.000+00:00Here's what I was about to type: "What the hell!? ...Here's what I was about to type: "What the hell!? They told you 'no!?' Get their ass fired! When you're first paying your dues, you don't say no if it's safe and legal. A dying father should be about the only excuse."<BR/><BR/>That's what I was about to type, then I saw that it'd be unpaid. Hmm, suddenly I'm seeing things their way. Of course they knew that when they signed up, but sheesh. It's kinda tough to expect your employees to go the extra mile for you when you give them a flaming bag of shit in return. <BR/><BR/>It reminds me of Mesa Airlines' early days...if you didn't complete the revenue flight to your destination, you didn't get paid. So if you did a couple of tough approaches and couldn't get in, so you diverted - too bad. On several occasions, crews had engine failures on takeoff and did a good job getting it back to the airport - and didn't get paid!<BR/><BR/>Or is the revenue flight pay so high that it kinda makes up for the unpaid repos and ferries?Sam Weigelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06332414897030323612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129651935444189012005-10-18T16:12:00.000+00:002005-10-18T16:12:00.000+00:00I think there are enough hints on here about how o...I think there are enough hints on here about how old I might be. You're welcome to say "when I was your age" to me, regardless.<BR/><BR/>Yes, last minute flights are somewhat expected. It's the nature of airplanes. You do you share, and you do more of that share when you're new.<BR/><BR/>We only get paid for revenue flights, so no, he wouldn't get flight pay for the trip. It's part of the cost of employment, like keeping your medical current and your uniform clean. <BR/><BR/>So you see, it's easy to tell when I'm being exploited, clumpinglitter: I'm being exploited if I'm at work.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129534598364243662005-10-17T07:36:00.000+00:002005-10-17T07:36:00.000+00:00I know JUST what you mean! Although I am not a pil...I know JUST what you mean! Although I am not a pilot, I often do things that <I>should</I> fall to someone else, but I do them because they have to be done. That's the way it is in airlines. If my doing something not originally part of my job description means that delayed flight gets away sooner, or that vital contract isn't lost, then I darn well do it :)<BR/><BR/>I see the attitude thing as well. One particular pilot where I work you could call out at 2am on Christmas Day and he'd be there in 10 minutes if he could. Good work ethic, I suppose perhaps his parents gave him that and he's a top bloke to boot =)<BR/><BR/>Sometimes people make you want to ask who skipped them up the 'food chain' and made them the CP or the Ops manager!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129495542285041282005-10-16T20:45:00.000+00:002005-10-16T20:45:00.000+00:00Aviatrix, I think that you are entering that time ...Aviatrix, <BR/><BR/>I think that you are entering that time in your life when you say "When I was your age... " or "When I was starting out ... " <BR/><BR/>Just wait till one of the snot nosed little brats gets hired somewhere better because the boss just wanted them to be somewhere else. Then you can officially make the transition to curmudgeon, but I think we will still continue reading. <BR/><BR/>btw, any hints on how old you really are? Some of us might be interested in whether we can say "When I was your age" to you. <BR/><BR/>dphAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000144.post-1129479514962229252005-10-16T16:18:00.000+00:002005-10-16T16:18:00.000+00:00I just violated this blog's 'no whining' guarantee...I just violated this blog's 'no whining' guarantee. You can have your money back, if you like.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.com